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2 Thessalonians 1:5-10

Paul names the penalty imposed at the appearing of Christ as eternal destruction.

The text

This is an obvious sign of the righteous judgment of God, to the end that you may be counted worthy of the Kingdom of God, for which you also suffer. Since it is a righteous thing with God to repay affliction to those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted with us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, giving vengeance to those who don’t know God, and to those who don’t obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus, who will pay the penalty: eternal destruction from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he comes to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired among all those who have believed (because our testimony to you was believed) in that day.
2 Thessalonians 1:5-10WEB, World English Bible, which is in the public domain

The immediate context

Paul comforts a persecuted church with the justice of God. When the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, he repays those who afflict them, and those who do not know God suffer the punishment of eternal destruction.

Where it sits in the canon

The source document notes that the combination of flaming fire and vengeance in verses 7 and 8 appears together elsewhere only in Isaiah 66:15, at the head of the chapter whose last verse Jesus quotes in Mark 9:48. The phrase eternal destruction is also the clearest New Testament gloss on the eternal punishment of Matthew 25:46.

Why it matters

It supplies the noun the case uses to define eternal punishment, and it also contains the disputed phrase about the presence of the Lord, where translations diverge and the argument turns on a single preposition.

How the passage is interpreted

The eternal conscious torment reading

Defenders of eternal conscious torment read the phrase as banishment: the lost suffer everlasting destruction away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might. On that reading Paul is describing where they will be for ever, which presupposes that they are somewhere, so destruction must name a ruin compatible with continued existence rather than the end of it.

The conditionalist reading

Conditionalists answer in two ways. If the sense is away from, the source document notes the strain this puts on reading Revelation 14:10 as unending torment in the presence of the Lamb, since no one can be permanently in and permanently away from the same presence. If the sense is simply from, then the presence of the Lord is the source of the destruction rather than the place of it, which fits Nahum 1:6 and the Old Testament scenes in which no one survives an encounter with God.

Where the readings agree

  • The passage describes a real and just penalty imposed when Christ is revealed.
  • The penalty is named with the noun destruction rather than with a verb.
  • The penalty is eternal in the sense that it is never reversed.
  • The affliction of the church will be repaid by God and not by the church.

Where the disagreement lies

Whether the preposition marks the place where the lost remain for ever, or the source from which their destruction proceeds.

Notes on the wording

  • The preposition at issue is apo, which most often marks a source or origin unless another word modifies it.
  • The connective and in the NIV rendering of verse 9 is not present in the Greek, as the source document points out.

Fuller treatment of the Greek and Hebrew words behind these notes is in the glossary and language notes.

Editorial notes

  • The author offers his own suggested rendering of verse 9 and expressly labels it as his suggestion, made with hesitancy because he is not a Greek scholar.
  • The site treats the direction of the preposition as an open question and does not rest the case on either answer, since both align with conditional immortality.
  • A concordance entry is a starting point rather than a substitute for a standard lexicon or grammar, and the page says so where it cites one.

Where this passage appears in the case

Related passages

  • Matthew 25:31-46The sheep and the goats, closing with eternal punishment set against eternal life.
  • Isaiah 66:15-24The scene of corpses, undying worms and unquenched fire that Jesus quotes when he speaks of Gehenna.
  • Revelation 14:9-11The worshippers of the beast tormented with fire and sulfur, with the smoke rising for ever.

Sources consulted for this passage

  1. Phil Welch. My case for Conditional Immortality/Annihilation (CI) instead of Eternal Conscious Torment (ECT). Working document, revised through 2026. 2023-03-01 Details
  2. Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Part 1: Destroyed by the Glory of His Manifest Presence. Rethinking Hell. 2016-11-14 View original of Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Part 1: Destroyed by the Glory of His Manifest Presence (opens in a new tab) Details
  3. Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Part 2: Separation or Obliteration?. Rethinking Hell. 2016-12-05 View original of Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Part 2: Separation or Obliteration? (opens in a new tab) Details
  4. Strong’s Greek 575: apo. Bible Hub View original of Strong’s Greek 575: apo (opens in a new tab) Details

Scripture is quoted from the World English Bible, which is in the public domain. This page was last reviewed .